Bond Robin: <smile> are you bucking for the Captain Obvious award. I would correct you in calling him a so-called Pope. He IS the Pope of the Western Roman Catholic Church, an actual POPE, not an anti-pope, not a usurper, and by apostolic succession the successor of Saint Peter - these are FACTS, he is also a Pagan, a Heretic, An Apostate, a Marxist and Globalist Luciferian; these things are also facts. No Roman Catholic should be relieved of this reality or this burden for which there is no excuse. For the last 150 years, Vaticanist Heretical Theology has become so truncated it was centered entirely on Roman Supremacy, the Roman Pope and his "Infallibility" to the point that a living IDOL was created, and a succession of Popes occupying the seat of antichrist; the failure of the Papacy has now been exposed to the world through the Pagan expressions of Vatican II culminating in the abomination of the Amazonian Synod in Rome where pagan Idols were treated as IKONS, and Pope, Cardinals, Bishops, Priest, laymen and women, paid homage to them: in that exposure the whole house of cards exposed as FALLEN.
Since, in Roman Catholic Papal Supremacy belief, the Pope holds the Keys of the Kingdom, were the Pope, Papal Supremacy and Papal infallibility TRUE and Rome Truly Church and the Seat of Christ's Church, it would mean that Hell HAS Prevailed and THE Body of Christ is fallen to Lucifer who now holds the Keys to the Kingdom of God. We know such a proposition is a demonic lie and lunacy for clearly Rome has fallen but the Church-the Body of Christ, has not.
Now in fact, what will happen with Roman Catholics is that many will be crushed and simply abandon any search for Christ, the deceived will follow their Idol, the Luciferian Pope, and his coming Luciferian successors, some knowingly loving the chaos and fake peace of Satan, others will simply follow in ignorance; those not deceived will discover the heresies and lies of the Roman Magisterium, have to reassess their theology and ecclesiology and move on. It is my goal in this video and reference material to help that process of reassessment of ecclesiology, in fact, it is the goal of this entire series, "Christ vs Politics and the Chaos of Cults."
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Bond Robin - Writing in December of 2014:
Roman Catholic Heresy vis a vis the
Pope:
“The Pope takes the place of Jesus Christ on earth. By divine right, the Pope has supreme and full power in faith and morals over each and every pastor and his flock. He is the true Vicar of Christ, the Head of the entire Church, the father and teacher of all Christians. He is the infallible ruler, the founder of dogmas, the author of and the judge of councils, the universal ruler of truth, the arbiter of the world, the supreme judge of heaven and earth, the judge of all, being judged by no one, God Himself on earth.” - Roman Catholic New York Catechism – and pure heresy by many means.
“The Catholic Church teaches that our Lord conferred on St. Peter the first place of honor and jurisdiction in the government of His whole Church and that the same spiritual supremacy has always resided in the Popes or Bishops of Rome being the successors of Saint Peter, Consequently to be true followers of Christ all Christians, both among the clergy and laity, must be in communion with the See of Rome where Peter rules in the person of his successors.”
Cardinal Gibbons – from “The Faith of Our Fathers”
If anyone says that the blessed Apostle Peter was not constituted by Christ our Lord prince of all the apostles and visible head of all the church militant or that he, Peter, directly and immediately received from our Lord Jesus Christ a primacy of favor only and not one of true and proper jurisdiction, let him be anathema. - Vatican I Council.
“We declare, affirm, define and pronounce it to be necessary to salvation for every human creature to be subject to the Roman pontiff. “ - Unum Sanctum, Bull of Boniface VIII – lying heresy, a heresy Rome now denies.
“I alone, despite my unworthiness am the successor of the apostles, the Vicar of Jesus Christ. I alone have the mission to guide and direct the barc of Peter. I am the way, the truth and the life. They who are with me are with the Church. They who are not with me are out of the Church.” Pope Pius IX – This is beyond heresy, this is Blasphemy. It must be perfect and inerrant Blasphemy.
“We teach and define that it is a dogma divinely revealed, the Roman Pontiff, when he speak ex cathedra, that is when in discharge of the office of pastor and doctor of all Christians by virtue of his supreme apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine regarding faith and morals to be held by the Universal Church by the divine assistance promised him in blessed Peter is possessed of that infallibility with which the Divine Redeemer willed that His Church should be endowed for defining doctrines regarding faith and morals, and that therefore such definitions of the Roman Pontiff of themselves, and not by virtue of the consent of the Church, are irreformable.” Vatican Council I - Here is the heresy where it is claimed that all “catholicity” rests in the person of the Pope ALONE. A Gross Innovation upon the faith and heresy.
Peter had no say in Saint Paul's appointment. Paul's writings come down to us in 2023 verses, compared to Peter's 166. Paul was never “approved” by Peter, nor was Paul or the other Apostles and their successors of “Petron succession.” The most Peter is reported saying about Paul's writings is that he wrote many things hard to understand. Paul mentioned Peter, but never with any special title of honor, such as Vicar or Pope, or as being above any of the other apostles. It is obvious that the first council of the Church, held when Paul visited Jerusalem was presided over by James, who Tradition teaches was head of the Church in Jerusalem. Paul, as an apostle, claimed authority over the Roman Church itself (during Peter's life) in Romans 1:5-6 and 16:17. Paul claimed for himself that “he was behind the chiefest apostles in NOTHING.” II Corinthians 12. Was Paul a member of the Church? Was he in submission to the Roman Pontiff? Further Paul REBUKES Peter without any mention of Peter's supremacy on a matter of faith and morals. Galatians 2 - So Paul must be lost for all eternity according to the heresy of modern Popes.
“We're built upon the foundation of the apostles (PLURAL), Jesus Christ, the chief cornerstone.” Ephesian 2:20.
Where is the mention that the “house” is solely contained in the office of Roman Pontiff?
“Well, venerable brethren, history raises its voice to assure us that Popes have erred. You may protest against it or deny it as you please, I'll prove it. Pope Victor in 192 first approved of Montanism and then condemned it. Pope Marcellinus was an idolator; he entered the Temple of Vesta and offered incense to the goddess. You'll say that it was an act of weakness, but I answer a Vicar of Jesus Christ dies rather than become an apostate. Pope Liberius consented to the condemnation of Saint Athanasius and made a profession of Arianism that he might be recalled from his exile and reinstated in the Holy See. Pope Honorius adhered to monothelitism. Fr. Gratry has proved that to demonstration. Pope Gregory I calls anyone 'anti-Christ' who take the name of Universal Bishop (Supreme Pontiff – same concept), and Pope Boniface III made the patricide Emperor of Phocus confer the title upon him. Popes Paschal II and Eugenius III authorized dueling (isn't that a moral matter of “morals). Popes Julius II and Pius IV forbade dueling. Oops. Pope Eugenius IV approved the Council of Basel and the reinstitution of the chalice of the Church of Bohemia, Pope Pius II revoked the concession. Pope Hadriah II declared civil marriages to be valid, Pope Pius VII condemned them. Pope Sixtus V published an edition of the Bible and by a Bull recommended it to be read. Pope Pius VII condemned the reading of it. Pope Clement XIV abolished the order of Jesuits. - This from the debate of Vatican I ( you thought it was a protestant screed didn't you.)
Pope Vigilius purchased the papacy from Bilesarius, Lieutenant to the Emperor Justinian. Pope Eugenius III imitated Vigilius. Saint Benard the bright star of the Reformation says, 'Can you show me in the great city of Rome anyone who would receive you as Pope that they had not received gold or silver for it?' You know the history of Formosus too well for me to add to it. But you will tell me these are fables, not history, fables! Go Monsignori to the Vatican library and read Plantina, the historian of the papacy and the annals of Baronius. These are facts which for the honor of the Holy See we would wish to ignore. Cardinal Baronius speaking of the papal court said, “What did the Roman Church appear in those days? How infamous! Only all-powerful courtesans governing in Rome! It was they who gave exchanged and took bishoprics; and horrible to relate, got their lovers, the false Popes, put on the thrones of Saint Peter!” - Again from the Vatican I debate record.
I've heard Roman Theologians, in fact that Priest (the New Age One) that does the "Catholic" Series on EWTN, make a great deal of the fact that very early in the Church's history, it could have been as early as 95AD, the orthodox faction of the Church of Corinth, which had experienced upheaval and removal by political factions, called on the Bishop of Rome, Clement to settle the dispute. They claim that call is "absolute proof" of the place of authority of the Roman Pontiff. They have to twist history, Tradition and fail to read the actual Letter of Clement to make this claim. Of course the church founded by Paul as recorded in the New Testament would reach to Paul's successor, who was in Rome for advice, which was given in the form of a pastoral letter. No "decree", No "ruling" just pastoral ADVICE. And in that Letter Peter in named ONCE and in a bad light, and Paul named in a good light, four times.
The Revised Language PASSED by the Bishops of the Extraordinary Synod on the Family in Rome, did LITTLE to change or cover its radical Homosexual Agenda. It RETAINED the language stating that homosexual "orientation" should be valued by Catholics. Should orientation toward adultery, which is shared by most heterosexual males also be "valued"? The day a church tells me that I'm supposed to value buggery is the day I denounce that church.
“The Pope takes the place of Jesus Christ on earth. By divine right, the Pope has supreme and full power in faith and morals over each and every pastor and his flock. He is the true Vicar of Christ, the Head of the entire Church, the father and teacher of all Christians. He is the infallible ruler, the founder of dogmas, the author of and the judge of councils, the universal ruler of truth, the arbiter of the world, the supreme judge of heaven and earth, the judge of all, being judged by no one, God Himself on earth.” - Roman Catholic New York Catechism – and pure heresy by many means.
“The Catholic Church teaches that our Lord conferred on St. Peter the first place of honor and jurisdiction in the government of His whole Church and that the same spiritual supremacy has always resided in the Popes or Bishops of Rome being the successors of Saint Peter, Consequently to be true followers of Christ all Christians, both among the clergy and laity, must be in communion with the See of Rome where Peter rules in the person of his successors.”
Cardinal Gibbons – from “The Faith of Our Fathers”
If anyone says that the blessed Apostle Peter was not constituted by Christ our Lord prince of all the apostles and visible head of all the church militant or that he, Peter, directly and immediately received from our Lord Jesus Christ a primacy of favor only and not one of true and proper jurisdiction, let him be anathema. - Vatican I Council.
“We declare, affirm, define and pronounce it to be necessary to salvation for every human creature to be subject to the Roman pontiff. “ - Unum Sanctum, Bull of Boniface VIII – lying heresy, a heresy Rome now denies.
“I alone, despite my unworthiness am the successor of the apostles, the Vicar of Jesus Christ. I alone have the mission to guide and direct the barc of Peter. I am the way, the truth and the life. They who are with me are with the Church. They who are not with me are out of the Church.” Pope Pius IX – This is beyond heresy, this is Blasphemy. It must be perfect and inerrant Blasphemy.
“We teach and define that it is a dogma divinely revealed, the Roman Pontiff, when he speak ex cathedra, that is when in discharge of the office of pastor and doctor of all Christians by virtue of his supreme apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine regarding faith and morals to be held by the Universal Church by the divine assistance promised him in blessed Peter is possessed of that infallibility with which the Divine Redeemer willed that His Church should be endowed for defining doctrines regarding faith and morals, and that therefore such definitions of the Roman Pontiff of themselves, and not by virtue of the consent of the Church, are irreformable.” Vatican Council I - Here is the heresy where it is claimed that all “catholicity” rests in the person of the Pope ALONE. A Gross Innovation upon the faith and heresy.
Peter had no say in Saint Paul's appointment. Paul's writings come down to us in 2023 verses, compared to Peter's 166. Paul was never “approved” by Peter, nor was Paul or the other Apostles and their successors of “Petron succession.” The most Peter is reported saying about Paul's writings is that he wrote many things hard to understand. Paul mentioned Peter, but never with any special title of honor, such as Vicar or Pope, or as being above any of the other apostles. It is obvious that the first council of the Church, held when Paul visited Jerusalem was presided over by James, who Tradition teaches was head of the Church in Jerusalem. Paul, as an apostle, claimed authority over the Roman Church itself (during Peter's life) in Romans 1:5-6 and 16:17. Paul claimed for himself that “he was behind the chiefest apostles in NOTHING.” II Corinthians 12. Was Paul a member of the Church? Was he in submission to the Roman Pontiff? Further Paul REBUKES Peter without any mention of Peter's supremacy on a matter of faith and morals. Galatians 2 - So Paul must be lost for all eternity according to the heresy of modern Popes.
“We're built upon the foundation of the apostles (PLURAL), Jesus Christ, the chief cornerstone.” Ephesian 2:20.
Where is the mention that the “house” is solely contained in the office of Roman Pontiff?
“Well, venerable brethren, history raises its voice to assure us that Popes have erred. You may protest against it or deny it as you please, I'll prove it. Pope Victor in 192 first approved of Montanism and then condemned it. Pope Marcellinus was an idolator; he entered the Temple of Vesta and offered incense to the goddess. You'll say that it was an act of weakness, but I answer a Vicar of Jesus Christ dies rather than become an apostate. Pope Liberius consented to the condemnation of Saint Athanasius and made a profession of Arianism that he might be recalled from his exile and reinstated in the Holy See. Pope Honorius adhered to monothelitism. Fr. Gratry has proved that to demonstration. Pope Gregory I calls anyone 'anti-Christ' who take the name of Universal Bishop (Supreme Pontiff – same concept), and Pope Boniface III made the patricide Emperor of Phocus confer the title upon him. Popes Paschal II and Eugenius III authorized dueling (isn't that a moral matter of “morals). Popes Julius II and Pius IV forbade dueling. Oops. Pope Eugenius IV approved the Council of Basel and the reinstitution of the chalice of the Church of Bohemia, Pope Pius II revoked the concession. Pope Hadriah II declared civil marriages to be valid, Pope Pius VII condemned them. Pope Sixtus V published an edition of the Bible and by a Bull recommended it to be read. Pope Pius VII condemned the reading of it. Pope Clement XIV abolished the order of Jesuits. - This from the debate of Vatican I ( you thought it was a protestant screed didn't you.)
Pope Vigilius purchased the papacy from Bilesarius, Lieutenant to the Emperor Justinian. Pope Eugenius III imitated Vigilius. Saint Benard the bright star of the Reformation says, 'Can you show me in the great city of Rome anyone who would receive you as Pope that they had not received gold or silver for it?' You know the history of Formosus too well for me to add to it. But you will tell me these are fables, not history, fables! Go Monsignori to the Vatican library and read Plantina, the historian of the papacy and the annals of Baronius. These are facts which for the honor of the Holy See we would wish to ignore. Cardinal Baronius speaking of the papal court said, “What did the Roman Church appear in those days? How infamous! Only all-powerful courtesans governing in Rome! It was they who gave exchanged and took bishoprics; and horrible to relate, got their lovers, the false Popes, put on the thrones of Saint Peter!” - Again from the Vatican I debate record.
I've heard Roman Theologians, in fact that Priest (the New Age One) that does the "Catholic" Series on EWTN, make a great deal of the fact that very early in the Church's history, it could have been as early as 95AD, the orthodox faction of the Church of Corinth, which had experienced upheaval and removal by political factions, called on the Bishop of Rome, Clement to settle the dispute. They claim that call is "absolute proof" of the place of authority of the Roman Pontiff. They have to twist history, Tradition and fail to read the actual Letter of Clement to make this claim. Of course the church founded by Paul as recorded in the New Testament would reach to Paul's successor, who was in Rome for advice, which was given in the form of a pastoral letter. No "decree", No "ruling" just pastoral ADVICE. And in that Letter Peter in named ONCE and in a bad light, and Paul named in a good light, four times.
The Revised Language PASSED by the Bishops of the Extraordinary Synod on the Family in Rome, did LITTLE to change or cover its radical Homosexual Agenda. It RETAINED the language stating that homosexual "orientation" should be valued by Catholics. Should orientation toward adultery, which is shared by most heterosexual males also be "valued"? The day a church tells me that I'm supposed to value buggery is the day I denounce that church.
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From the Baltimore Catechism:
Q. 525. What do you mean by the authority of the Church?
A. By the authority of the Church I mean the right and power which the Pope and the Bishops, as the successors of the Apostles, have to teach and to govern the faithful.
Q. 526. What do you mean by the infallibility of the Church?
A. By the infallibility of the Church I mean that the Church can not err when it teaches a doctrine of faith or morals.
Q. 527. What do we mean by a "doctrine of faith or morals"?
A. By a doctrine of faith or morals we mean the revealed teaching that refers to whatever we must believe and do in order to be saved.
Q. 528. How do you know that the Church can not err?
A. I know that the Church can not err because Christ promised that the Holy Ghost would remain with it forever and save it from error. If, therefore, the Church has erred, the Holy Ghost must have abandoned it and Christ has failed to keep His promise, which is a thing impossible.
Q. 529. Since the Church can not err, could it ever be reformed in its teaching of faith or morals?
A. Since the Church can not err, it could never be reformed in its teaching of faith or morals. Those who say the Church needed reformation in faith or morals accuse Our Lord of falsehood and deception.
Q. 530. When does the Church teach infallibly?
A. The Church teaches infallibly when it speaks through the Pope and Bishops united in general council, or through the Pope alone when he proclaims to all the faithful a doctrine of faith or morals.
Q. 531. What is necessary that the Pope may speak infallibly or ex-cathedra?
A. That the Pope may speak infallibly, or ex-cathedra:
1. He must speak on a subject of faith or morals;
2. He must speak as the Vicar of Christ and to the whole Church;
3. He must indicate by certain words, such as, we define, we proclaim, etc., that he intends to speak infallibly.
Q. 532. Is the Pope infallible in everything he says and does?
A. The Pope is not infallible in everything he says and does, because the Holy Ghost was not promised to make him infallible in everything, but only in matters of faith and morals for the whole Church. Nevertheless, the Pope's opinion on any subject deserves our greatest respect on account of his learning, experience and dignity.
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It is not enough to say the Orthodox Catholic Church teaches x, y, or z. That is a failure to understand the context of what is being said. As it is not enough to say that the Eastern Orthodox Church is opposed to the Roman Catholic doctrine of papal supremacy, which is the usual tact when dealing with the heterodox (heretical now Apostate) reality of Modern Roman Catholicism. It is far more accurate to say that ALL of Roman Catholicism, both East and West opposed such heresy, and for the most part knew nothing of it, for the first thousand years of the Church's history. While not denying that some form of "primacy of honor" could exist for the Bishop of Rome, both History and Tradition clearly indicate that the tradition of Rome's primacy in the early Church was not equivalent to the current doctrine of supremacy.
Contents
- 1 Orthodox understanding of Catholicity - which could be properly labeled, also, Early Roman Catholic understanding of Catholicity. This is important to grasp that present Orthodox understanding and Ancient Roman Catholic understanding are one and the same.
- 2 Orthodox rebuttal of Catholic arguments
- 3 Opposition arguments from early church history
- 4 Orthodox arguments from Church Councils
- 5 Rome's supposed primacy
- 6 Citations
- 7 Sources
- 8 External links
Orthodox understanding of Catholicity
The test of authentic catholicity is adherence to the authority of the Church's Holy Tradition, and then to the witness of Sacred "Scripture", which is itself a product of the Church's aforementioned Holy Tradition. It is not defined by adherence to any particular See. It is the position of the Orthodox Church that it has never accepted the pope as de jure leader of the entire church. All bishops are equal "as Peter", therefore every church under every bishop (consecrated in apostolic succession) is fully complete (the original meaning of catholic).
Referring to Ignatius of Antioch,[1] Carlton says
Contrary to popular opinion, the word catholic does not mean "universal"; it means "whole, complete, lacking nothing." ... Thus, to confess the Church to be catholic is to say that She possesses the fullness of the Christian faith. To say, however, that Orthodox and Rome constitute two lungs of the same Church is to deny that either Church separately is catholic in any meaningful sense of the term. This is not only contrary to the teaching of Orthodoxy, it is flatly contrary to the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church, which considered itself truly catholic.[2]The church is in the image of the Trinity[3] and reflects the reality of the incarnation.
The body of Christ must always be equal with itself … The local church which manifests the body of Christ cannot be subsumed into any larger organisation or collectivity which makes it more catholic and more in unity, for the simple reason that the principle of total catholicity and total unity is already intrinsic to it.[4]Any changes to the understanding of the church would reflect a change in the understanding of the Trinity.
Ancient Orthodox Roman Catholic rebuttal of Modern Roman Catholic arguments and errors.
(Orthodox rebuttal of Catholic arguments)
It
is the position of Orthodox Christianity that Roman Catholic arguments
in support of the teaching have relied on proofs from Fathers that have
either been misinterpreted or so taken out of context as to misrepresent
their true intent. It is the position of Orthodox Christianity that a
closer examination of those supposed supports would have the effect of
either not supporting the argument or have the opposite effect of
supporting the counter-argument.
Apostolic Throne
Athanasius is used as a witness for papal primacy on numerous Catholic apologist sites.Rome is called the Apostolic throne.[5][6]Whelton, however, says that Athanasius does not use the definite article (the) in the text.[7]
Thus from the first they spared not even Liberius, Bishop of Rome, but extended their fury even to those parts; they respected not his bishopric, because it was an Apostolical throne ...[8]Rome is an Apostolic throne, not the Apostolic throne. Augustine too is misquoted on the same point of grammar ...
Pope Leo XIII
And for a like reason St. Augustine publicly attests that "the primacy of the Apostolic chair always existed in the Roman Church" (Ep. xliii., n. 7)[9]
Augustine
...because he saw himself united by letters of communion both to the Roman Church, in which the supremacy of an apostolic chair has always flourished.[10]Whelton goes on to say that for Augustine there is not one Apostolic See, but many:
You cannot deny that you see what we call heresies and schisms, that is, many cut off from the root of the Christian society, which by means of the Apostolic Sees, and the successions of bishops, is spread abroad in an indisputably world-wide diffusion ...[11]
Ignatius of Antioch
For Ignatius each church under a bishop is complete – the original meaning of "catholic". For Ignatius the church is a world-wide unity of many communities. Each has at its center a bishop "who draws together the local community in the Eucharistic celebration."[12] This then is the unity of the church – each church united to its bishop – each of these churches united to each other. There is no evidence of him accepting a single supreme bishop-of-bishops as the bishops authority is localised to a particular church.[13] C. Carlton sums up Ignatius's view of the bishop's role in the Church this way:Just as the Father is the principal of unity within the Holy Trinity, so the bishop is the center of the visible unity of the Church on earth.[14]Ignatius sets out what he believes consists of the church in an epistle to the Trallians:
In like manner, let all reverence the deacons as an appointment of Jesus Christ, and the bishop as Jesus Christ, who is the Son of the Father, and the presbyters as the Sanhedrin of God, and assembly of the apostles. Apart from these, there is no Church.[15]There is no reference to another tier above bishop. For Ignatius, the bishop is supreme, not the bishop because he is in communion with the bishop in Rome.[16][17][18][19][20]
Thus when he writes to Polycarp the bishop of Smyrna he states that God is Polycarp’s bishop, implying that there is no intermediary between the local bishop and God.[21]
John Chrysostom referred to Ignatius of Antioch as a "teacher equivalent to Peter".[22]
Letter to the Romans
Ignatius' Epistle to the Romans is used by Catholic apologists to suggest Roman primacy.[23] In particular his opening remarks:Ignatius, who is also called Theophorus, to the Church which has obtained mercy, through the majesty of the Most High Father, and Jesus Christ, His only-begotten Son; the Church which is beloved and enlightened by the will of Him that willeth all things which are according to the love of Jesus Christ our God, which also presides in the place of the region of the Romans, worthy of God, worthy of honour, worthy of the highest happiness, worthy of praise, worthy of obtaining her every desire, worthy of being deemed holy, and which presides over love, is named from Christ, and from the Father, which I also salute in the name of Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father: to those who are united, both according to the flesh and spirit, to every one of His commandments; who are filled inseparably with the grace of God, and are purified from every strange taint, [I wish] abundance of happiness unblameably, in Jesus Christ our God.[24]J.H. Srawley concedes that the Roman church presides but argues that it is unclear as to what area the act of presiding ("presides in the place of the region of the Romans" and "presides over love") refers to. He argues that the act of presiding may be simply of those churches in the region of the Romans, that is, those in Italy.[25]
Tome of Leo
Often cited as a proof of Papal Supremacy[26][27][28][29] is the Tome of Leo which is a letter sent by Pope Leo to the Fourth Ecumenical Council, Chalcedon in 451. It in part seems to suggest that Leo speaks with the authority of Peter. It is the position of Orthodox Christianity that the approval of the Tome is simply to state a unity of faith, not only of the pope but other churchmen as well. Before the Tome of Leo was presented to the Council, it was submitted to a committee headed by Patriarch St. Anatolius of Constantinople for study. The committee compared the Tome of Leo to the 12 Anathemas of St. Cyril of Alexandria against Nestorius and declared the Tome orthodox. It was then presented to the council for approval.After reading of the foregoing epistle (Pope Leo's), the most reverend bishops cried out: "This is the faith of the fathers, this is the faith of the Apostles. So we all believe, thus the orthodox believe. Anathema to him who does not thus believe. Peter has spoken thus through Leo. So taught the Apostles. Piously and truly did Leo teach, so taught Cyril. Everlasting be the memory of Cyril. Leo and Cyril taught the same thing, anathema to him who does not so believe. This is the true faith. Those of us who are orthodox thus believe.”[30]However it is not just Leo's teaching that is the teaching of the Apostle, but Cyril's teaching as well. Both teach as Peter. The same language was used following the reading of Cyril's letter at the council.[31] The language of the council is simply to reinforce that all believe.[32] At the Third Ecumenical Council Pope Celestine and Cyril were compared to Paul.[33]
John Chrysostom
Another apparent witness for supremacy claims is John Chrysostom. This evidence is supposed to be based on an incident when he faced exile and he appealed to the pope for help. When he was to be exiled he appealed to the pope for help, as well as two other western prelates; Venerius of Milan and Chromatius of Aquileia. He appealed to all three in the same terms rather than viewing the pope as leader.[34]In 2007 Pope Benedict XVI also spoke of this:
How well known and highly esteemed Chromatius was in the Church of his time we can deduce from an episode in the life of St John Chrysostom. When the Bishop of Constantinople was exiled from his See, he wrote three letters to those he considered the most important Bishops of the West seeking to obtain their support with the Emperors: he wrote one letter to the Bishop of Rome, the second to the Bishop of Milan and the third to the Bishop of Aquileia, precisely, Chromatius (Ep. CLV: PG LII, 702).[35]Historian J. N. D Kelly wrote:
While confined to his palace, John took a step of great importance. At some date between Easter and Pentecost ... he wrote for support to the pope, Innocent I, and, in identical terms, to the two other leading patriarchs in the west, Venerius of Milan and Chromatius of Aquileia ... His move in no way implied that he recognized the holy see as the supreme court of appeal in the church ... Such an idea, absent from his sermons and other writings, is ruled out by his simultaneous approach to the two other western patriarchs.[36]The pope took up the cause of John Chrysostom, convoking a western synod to investigate the matter.[37] They found in favor of John Chrysostom and sent delegates to Constantinople but these were ignored and sent back after only three months.[38] The pope's findings in support of John Chrysostom were not viewed as serious enough to annul John Chrysostom's exile.
It must also be remembered that he took his vows from Meletius (whom we noted earlier was not in communion with Rome). He accepted as an authority men not in communion with Rome. After Meletius died John Chrysostom accepted Flavian as his bishop[39] - another person not in communion with Rome.[40] John Chrysostom spent much of his life not in communion with Rome.
Other texts are used to allege he supported Roman primacy. John Chrysostom sometimes ascribes to Peter greatness.
For he who then did not dare to question Jesus, but committed the office to another, was even entrusted with the chief authority over the brethren.[41]This would seem to indicate that Chrysostom taught that Peter was the supreme ruler over the "brethren". He goes on to ascribe Peter as the "teacher of the world".[42]
However, according to Abbé Guettée on other occasions John Chrysostom ascribes the same titles to others:[43]
"The merciful God is wont to give this honor to his servants, that by their grace others may acquire salvation; as was agreed by the blessed Paul, that teacher of the world who emitted the rays of his teaching everywhere."[44]Denny also notes that John Chrysostom goes on to speak of Paul as being on an equal footing with Peter.[45][46] Further, the Catholic encyclopedia offers this frank admission of his writings:
... that there is no clear and any direct passage in favour of the primacy of the pope.[47]
Basil the Great
Basil the Great also supported Meletius against Rome's candidate.[48] Writing to Count Terentius Basil saidBut a further rumour has reached me that you are in Antioch, and are transacting the business in hand with the chief authorities. And, besides this, I have heard that the brethren who are of the party of Paulinus are entering on some discussion with your excellency on the subject of union with us; and by "us" I mean those who are supporters of the blessed man of God, Meletius. I hear, moreover, that the Paulinians are carrying about a letter of the Westerns assigning to them the episcopate of the Church in Antioch, but speaking under a false impression of Meletius, the admirable bishop of the true Church of God. I am not astonished at this ... But I shall never be able to persuade myself on these grounds to ignore Meletius, or to forget the Church which is under him, or to treat as small, and of little importance to the true religion, the questions which originated the division. I shall never consent to give in, merely because somebody is very much elated at receiving a letter from men.[49]From his letters it appears that Basil did not hold the popes in high esteem. When Basil wrote to the west for help (in combating Arianism) he addressed his letters to the whole western church.[50] He didn't especially write to Rome for help and did not even list it first.
To his brethren truly God-beloved and very dear, and fellow ministers of like mind, the bishops of Gaul and Italy, Basil, bishop of Cæsarea in Cappadocia.[51]Damasus was the leader of a group supporting the heretic Marcellus
If the anger of the Lord lasts on, what help can come to us from the frown of the West? Men who do not know the truth, and do not wish to learn it, but are prejudiced by false suspicions, are doing now as they did in the case of Marcellus when they quarrelled with men who told them the truth, and by their own action strengthened the cause of heresy.[52]Of the pope, St Basil wrote
... but what possible good could accrue to the cause by communication between a man proud and exalted, and therefore quite unable to hear those who preach the truth to him from a lower standpoint, and a man like my brother, to whom anything like mean servility is unknown?[53]
Coryphæus
Coryphæus means the head of the choir. Catholic apologists note that John Chrysostom uses the term to describe Peter.[54] However he also uses this term in relation to others:He took the coryphaei (plural) and led them up into a high mountain apart ... Why does He take these three alone? Because they excelled the others. Peter showed his excellence by his great love of Him, John by being greatly loved, James by the answer ... "We are able to drink the chalice."[55]
The coryphaei, Peter the foundation of the Church, Paul the vessel of election.[56]It is argued by Catholics that John Chrysostom only uses the singular Coryphæus in relation to Peter. This is true, but others do not restrict the use of the singular to Peter.
Basil also uses the term Coryphæus. He refers to Athanasius as "Coryphæus of all."[57]
He refers to Pope Damasus as Coryphæus, but as the leader of the westerners, not of the whole church.
Apart from the common document, I should like to have written to their Coryphæus.[58]Hesychius of Jerusalem uses the term Coryphæus to refer to James.[59]
Maximus the Confessor
Pope Leo XIII has already been shown to have misquoted Athanasius. Whelton states that (in his encyclical Satis cognitum) he misquotes Maximus the Confessor.[60] In Defloratio ex Epistola ad Petrum illustrem Maximus (also rendered Maximos) is alleged to have said:Therefore if a man does not want to be, or to be called, a heretic, let him not strive to please this or that man ... but let him hasten before all things to be in communion with the Roman See.[61]Edward Denny giving his own translation and using that of Vincenzi[62] shows that the words of Maximus give Rome a power conferred upon it by Holy Synods. This is in contrast with Catholic teaching and also would suggest that if a Synod can confer power, it can also take it away. Denny states that Vincenzi is "compelled by the facts to admit that these very authorities to which St Maximus refers, as they have been handed down to us, are witness against the Papal Monarchy."[63]
Formula of Pope Hormisdas
Under the emperor Anastasius I, the churches of Constantinople and Rome were in schism. However with the ascendency of the orthodox emperor Justin I, the two churches could be reconciled again. Justin ordered negotiations begin.Pope Hormisdas issued a formula of orthodox catholic faith which the Patriarch John II could sign if he wished reunion of the two churches.
The first condition of salvation is to keep the norm of the true faith and in no way to deviate from the established doctrine of the Fathers. For it is impossible that the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, who said, "Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church" [Matthew 16:18], should not be verified. And their truth has been proved by the course of history, for in the Apostolic See the Catholic religion has always been kept unsullied. From this hope and faith we by no means desire to be separated and, following the doctrine of the Fathers, we declare anathema all heresies, and, especially, the heretic Nestorius, former bishop of Constantinople, who was condemned by the Council of Ephesus, by Blessed Celestine, bishop of Rome, and by the venerable Cyril, bishop of Alexandria. We likewise condemn and declare to be anathema Eutyches and Dioscoros of Alexandria, who were condemned in the holy Council of Chalcedon, which we follow and endorse. This Council followed the holy Council of Nicaea and preached the apostolic faith. And we condemn the assassin Timothy, surnamed Aelurus ["the Cat"] and also Peter [Mongos] of Alexandria, his disciple and follower in everything. We also declare anathema their helper and follower, Acacius of Constantinople, a bishop once condemned by the Apostolic See, and all those who remain in contact and company with them. Because this Acacius joined himself to their communion, he deserved to receive a judgment of condemnation similar to theirs. Furthermore, we condemn Peter ["the Fuller"] of Antioch with all his followers together with the followers of all those mentioned above.Catholic apologists emphasize part of the text bolded above.
Following, as we have said before, the Apostolic See in all things and proclaiming all its decisions, we endorse and approve all the letters which Pope St Leo wrote concerning the Christian religion. And so I hope I may deserve to be associated with you in the one communion which the Apostolic See proclaims, in which the whole, true, and perfect security of the Christian religion resides. I promise that from now on those who are separated from the communion of the Catholic Church, that is, who are not in agreement with the Apostolic See, will not have their names read during the sacred mysteries. But if I attempt even the least deviation from my profession, I admit that, according to my own declaration, I am an accomplice to those whom I have condemned. I have signed this, my profession, with my own hand, and I have directed it to you, Hormisdas, the holy and venerable pope of Rome."[64]
Those in agreement with orthodox faith would naturally be in agreement with the church in Rome on this matter – which was stating orthodox faith. For Catholic apologists agreement to this text means an agreement to Rome, because Rome is the leader. For Orthodox agreement to Rome is because it stated the truth.
For the Greeks, the text of the libellus meant a factual recognition that the apostolic Roman church had been consistent in orthodoxy for the past seventy years and, therefore deserved to become a rallying point for the Chalcedonians (those who accepted the Council of Chalcedon) of the East.[65]Further evidence seems to point to this. Patriarch John expressed his opinion that Rome (Old Rome) and Constantinople (New Rome) were on the same level.[66] The Patriarch showed this when he added to the document:
I declare that the see of apostle Peter and the see of this imperial city are one.[67]Furthermore despite it being one of the demands in the formula the east continued to disregard papal demands by not condemning Acacius.[68]
In doing so John was re-affirming Canon XXVIII of the Council of Chalcedon - a canon which the popes were not to affirm for many centuries to come.
The politics of this is demonstrated by the fact that the Emperor Justin ignored the pope's candidate for the vacated see of Alexandria and instead "authorised the consecration of Timothy III, an intransigent Monophysite".[69]
Theoderic, king in Italy, and an Arian grew suspicious of the new alliance between Rome and Constantinople. John who succeeded as pope was sent to Constantinople to restore Arian churches there. Thus the orthodox Catholic pope was sent to urge the restoration of churches to heretics. This the pope did with limited success.[70][71] Having failed, upon his return the pope was arrested and died in prison.
This then is not the capitulation of the eastern churches to Roman authority. It is not even the capitulation of the church in Constantinople – as other eastern churches ignored the formula completely. The popes did not have authority over the church and in fact were forced to go and plead the case of heretics before the imperial throne.
Opposition arguments from early church history
- The church at Rome was founded (or more formally organised) by both Peter and Paul. As no particular charism or primacy attaches to Paul, then it is not from his co-foundation of the church of Rome that the Roman Pontiff claims primacy.
- As many Sees are of Peter, Peter serves as an archetype of "Apostle".
- While the See of Rome had primacy, it was a position of honour rather than power or magisterial authority.
- Rome is an Apostolic throne, not the Apostolic throne.
- Each bishop has the right to manage affairs within his local diocese. In the event of a dispute with another bishop, only a general council may rule on the matter.
- Church Fathers do not refer to another tier or clerical office above the ordinary episcopate.
- Cases which had been decided by Rome were appealed to bishops in other metropolitan areas.
- Cases which had been decided by Rome were appealed to synods of bishops in other metropolitan areas.
- Peter founded many episcopal sees; all such sees have equal standing.
- The Apostles were equal; no authority was withheld from any of them.
- The Roman Pontiff is also styled "universal bishop" (Latin: Summus Pontifex Ecclesiae Universalis), but a previous Pope condemned the use of such a title by any bishop.
- The post-Constantinian church conferred upon the sees of Old Rome and later New Rome (Constantinople) the same degree of honor.
- Eastern Patriarchs have regarded the Bishop of Rome, occupying the only apostolic see in Western Christendom, as the Patriarch of the West (not of the entire church).
- Faced with exile, John Chrysostom, the Archbishop of Constantinople, wrote an appeal for help to three Western churchmen. While one of these was the bishop of Rome, had Rome exercised primacy at that time, he would not have written to the other two bishops.
"Keys of the Kingdom"
Orthodox Christians accept that Peter had a certain primacy. In the New Testament, he is first to be given the keys Matthew 16:18. However other texts may be interpreted to imply that the other Apostles also received the keys in Matthew 18:18. Such an interpretation, it is claimed,[72] has been accepted by many Church Fathers; Tertullian,[73] Hilary of Poitiers,[74] John Chrysostom,[75] Augustine.[76][77][78][79]The Council of Jerusalem
The New Testament records (Acts 15) the convening of a council to decide whether gentiles who converted should be required to be circumcised, which according to some interpretations was prescribed by the Mosaic law. (Rabbinic Judaism only prescribes Noahide Laws for gentiles.) Catholic historians note that when Peter spoke, all were silent. However Whelton notes that when Paul and James spoke, all were silent as well.[80]Eusebius said that it was James who stated the decision of the Council, not Peter.[81] John Chrysostom noted James made the decision.[82][83]
The ruling of the Council was expressed as being the decision of all the council, not just Peter. Continuing with this the opening statements of official formulations normally begins with the phrase "Following the Holy Fathers", not "Following the ruling of the Pope."[84]
Easter controversy
There existed a difference in how some local churches celebrated Easter: in the Roman province of Asia it was celebrated on the 14th of the moon[85] (Quartodecimanism), not necessarily on Sunday. "Bishop Victor of Rome ordered synods to be held to settle the matter – an interesting early instance of synodality and indeed of popes encouraging synods – and excommunicated Polycrates of Ephesus and the bishops of Asia when their synod refused to adopt the Roman line. Victor was rebuked by Irenaeus for this severity and it seems that he revoked his sentence and that communion was preserved."[86]Eusebius wrote:
Victor, who presided over the church at Rome, immediately attempted to cut off from the common unity the parishes of all Asia, with the churches that agreed with them, as heterodox; and he wrote letters and declared all the brethren there wholly excommunicate. But this did not please all the bishops. And they besought him to consider the things of peace, and of neighborly unity and love. Words of theirs are extant, sharply rebuking Victor. Among them was Irenæus, who, sending letters in the name of the brethren in Gaul over whom he presided, maintained that the mystery of the resurrection of the Lord should be observed only on the Lord's day. He fittingly admonishes Victor that he should not cut off whole churches of God which observed the tradition of an ancient custom.[87]The matter will be eventually resolved at the First Ecumenical Council in line with Sunday observance.
Orthodox arguments from Church Councils
- Not one Ecumenical Council was called by a pope; all were called by Byzantine emperors. Had the teaching of primacy formed part of Holy Tradition, then such power would have been exercised to resolve the many disputes in the early history of the church.
- A general council may overrule decisions of the Roman Pontiff
- Decisions taken by popes in cases involving against bishops have often been confirmed by ecumenical councils. This indicates that the papal decision itself is not considered binding.
First Ecumenical Council
Arius and his teachings were condemned by a synod of bishops which the pope summoned in 320. Alexander of Alexandria summoned a local synod in Alexandria in 321 which also condemned Arianism.[88] Five years after the pope had condemned Arianism, Emperor Constantine I called an ecumenical council to settle the matter. Whelton argues that the pope's decision was not considered an end to the matter because a council in Africa met to examine the issue for itself. Constantine then ordered a larger council to decide on the matter.[89]The Fourth Canon of this council confirmed that bishops were to be appointed only locally.[90] This is in contrast with Catholic canon law that allows the pope (should he wish) to interfere in the appointment of church officers at any level.
Second Ecumenical Council
The Second Ecumenical Council was presided over by Meletius of Antioch, who was not in communion with Rome.[91][92]Third Ecumenical Council
The Third Ecumenical Council called Nestorius to account for his teachings following his condemnation as a heretic by Pope Celestine I. The council did not consider the papal condemnation as definitive.[93][94] Catholic theologian Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet notedIt was fixed that all was in suspense once the authority of the universal Synod was invoked even though the sentence of the Roman Pontiff about doctrine and about persons accused of heresy had been uttered and promulgated.[95]Bishop Maret said
The Pope had pronounced in the affair of Nestorius a canonical judgment clothed with all the authority of his see. He had prescribed its execution. Yet, three months after this sentence and before its execution, all the episcopate is invited to examine afresh and to decide freely the question in dispute.[96]St Vincent of Lerins
And that blessed council holding their doctrine, following their counsel, believing their witness, submitting to their judgment without haste, without foregone conclusion, without partiality, gave their determination concerning the Rules of Faith.[97]In its condemnation of Nestorius, the language given is of the council ruling, not because the pope said so. Cyril writes that he, and his fellow bishop - the pope - had both condemned Nestorius.[98]
Catholic apologists Fathers Rumble and Carty stated
The Council of Ephesus in 431, embracing all Bishops and not even held at Rome, decreed, "No one can doubt, indeed it is known to all ages, that Peter, Prince and Head of the Apostles and Foundation of the Catholic Church, received the keys of the kingdom from Christ our Redeemer, and that to this day and always he lives in his successors exercising judgment."[99]It is true that the statement was made at the council. It is however not a "decree". It was a statement by a priest during the deliberations of the council. This priest, Philip, was at the council to represent the pope. It was not a decree or finding made by the council and remains his opinion.[100]
Fourth Ecumenical Council
The Fourth Ecumenical Council was called against the expressed wishes of the pope.[101]Fifth Ecumenical Council
A controversy arose out of the writings known as Three Chapters – written by bishops Theodore, Theodoret, and Ibas. Pope Vigilius opposed the condemnation of the Three Chapters. At the Fifth Ecumenical Council (553) the assembled bishops condemned and anathematized Three Chapters. After the council threatened to excommunicate him and remove him from office, Vigilius changed his mind – blaming the devil for misleading him.[102] Bossuet wroteThese things prove, that in a matter of the utmost importance, disturbing the whole Church, and seeming to belong to the Faith, the decress of sacred council prevail over the decrees of Pontiffs, and the letter of Ibas, though defended by a judgment of the Roman Pontiff could nevertheless be proscribed as heretical.[103]German theologian Karl Josef von Hefele notes that the council was called "without the assent of the Pope".[104]
Sixth Ecumenical Council
At the Sixth Ecumenical Council, both Pope Honorius and Patriarch Sergius I of Constantinople were declared heretics.[105]The holy council said: After we had reconsidered, according to our promise which we had made to your highness, the doctrinal letters of Sergius, at one time patriarch of this royal god-protected city to Cyrus, who was then bishop of Phasis and to Honorius some time Pope of Old Rome, as well as the letter of the latter to the same Sergius, we find that these documents are quite foreign to the apostolic dogmas, to the declarations of the holy Councils, and to all the accepted Fathers, and that they follow the false teachings of the heretics; therefore we entirely reject them, and execrate them as hurtful to the soul[106]The council anathematized them,[107] declared them tools of the devil,[108] and cast them out of the church.[109][110]
The popes (from Pope Leo II) themselves adhered to the Council's ruling and added Honorius to their list of heretics, before quietly dropping his name in the eleventh century.[111] The Catholic Encyclopedia states:
... also in the oath taken by every new pope from the eighth century to the eleventh in the following words: "Together with Honorius, who added fuel to their wicked assertions" (Liber diurnus, ii, 9).[112]So too the Seventh Ecumenical Council declared its adhesion to the anathema in its decree of faith. Thus an Ecumenical Council could rule on the faith of a pope and expel him from the church.[113]
The Council of Trullo
The Council in Trullo considered by Orthodox as a continuation of the sixth.[114][115]At this council it was confirmed (in Canon 39) that the local church could regulate itself; to have its own special laws and regulations.[116]
The Council of Sardica
It is claimed by Catholic apologists[117] that this council offers proof of papal primacy. In particular this reference is usedThe reason for your absence was both honorable and imperative, that the schismatic wolves might not rob and plunder by stealth nor the heretical dogs bark madly in the rapid fury nor the very serpent, the devil, discharge his blasphemous venom. So it seems to us right and altogether fitting that priests of the Lord from each and every province should report to their head, that is, to the See of Peter, the Apostle.It is further stated that Athanasius referred to this council as "the Great Council".[120]
However, this council was not an ecumenical one and not all of it was initially accepted by the east, who in fact refused to attend because of their Arian-leanings and their opposition to Athanasius.[121] Apart from the fact that the council at Sardica was not accepted by the whole church until at least the Council at Trullo hundreds of years later, Sardica had only given to the bishop of Rome jurisdiction as a court of final appeal.[122] Pope Zosimus would later misrepresent the Council of Sardica in order to bolster his claims for power over the churches in Africa.[123]
... the canons were repudiated by the African Church in 418 and 424. But, most important of all, the Byzantine Church never submitted itself to papal scrutiny in the manner prescribed by Sardica.[124]
Western councils
Filioque
In 809, when Pope Leo III was asked to approve the addition to the Nicene Creed of the Filioque, first included by the Third Council of Toledo (589) and later adopted widely in Spain, the Frankish empire and England, he refused:[125][126]In 809 a council was held at Aix-la-Chapelle by Charlemagne, and from it three divines were sent to confer with the Pope, Leo III, upon the subject. The Pope opposed the insertion of the Filioque on the express ground that the General Councils had forbidden any addition to be made to their formulary ... So firmly resolved was the Pope that the clause should not be introduced into the creed that he presented two silver shields to the Confessio in St. Peter’s at Rome, on one of which was engraved the creed in Latin and on the other in Greek, without the addition.[127]The claim that Pope John VIII also condemned the addition of the Filioque[128] is disputed.[129] Philip Schaff says there are different opinions about when the addition was accepted in Rome, whether by Pope Nicholas I (858-867), Pope Sergius III (904-911) or, as is most commonly believed, by Pope Benedict VIII (1014–1015).[129] When arguing "that so far from the insertion being made by the Pope, it was made in direct opposition to his wishes and command", he expresses himself more decidedly:
It was not till 1014 that for the first time the interpolated creed was used at mass with the sanction of the Pope. In that year Benedict VIII. acceded to the urgent request of Henry II. of Germany and so the papal authority was forced to yield, and the silver shields have disappeared from St. Peter's.[127]
Council of Frankfurt
The Council of Frankfurt was held in 794. "Two papal legates were present, Theophylact and Stephen."[130] Despite the presence of papal representatives it still repudiated the terms of the Seventh Ecumenical Council – despite the fact that the Seventh was accepted by the pope.[131]Rome's supposed primacy
The first pope
The Catholic church states that Rome's supremacy rests on the pope being given power handed down from the first pope – Peter.[132]However there is evidence that Peter was not the first bishop, and that the church in Rome was founded (or organized)[133] by Peter and Paul together.[134]
"The blessed apostles having founded and established the church, entrusted the office of the episcopate to Linus. Paul speaks of this Linus in his Epistles to Timothy.[135]That is Linus is entrusted by the Apostles (plural). It is suggested that this evidence means that Linus was pope whilst Peter was still alive.[136][137] Rome's church could be said to be founded (or organised) on both Peter and Paul.
Primacy based on Peter and Paul
Rome had primacy, but it was one of honor, rather than power. The reasons for this are varied. One being that it was a See founded by both Peter and Paul. This honor was given not because of the 'primacy' of Peter (which is Catholic teaching), but on the position of both Peter and Paul. This was the accepted position, even in the west."I. Rome Owes Its High Position to These Apostles.
The whole world, dearly-beloved, does indeed take part in all holy anniversaries, and loyalty to the one Faith demands that whatever is recorded as done for all men's salvation should be everywhere celebrated with common rejoicings. But, besides that reverence which to-day's festival has gained from all the world, it is to be honored with special and peculiar exultation in our city, that there may be a predominance of gladness on the day of their martyrdom in the place where the chief of the Apostles met their glorious end. For these are the men, through whom the light of Christ's gospel shone on thee, O Rome, and through whom thou, who wast the teacher of error, was made the disciple of Truth. These are thy holy Fathers and true shepherds, who gave thee claims to be numbered among the heavenly kingdoms, and built thee under much better and happier auspices than they, by whose zeal the first foundations of thy walls were laid: and of whom the one that gave thee thy name defiled thee with his brother's blood. These are they who promoted thee to such glory, that being made a holy nation, a chosen people, a priestly and royal state, and the head of the world through the blessed Peter's holy See thou didst attain a wider sway. by the worship of God than by earthly government. For although thou weft increased by many victories, and didst extend thy rule on land and sea, yet what thy toils in war subdued is less than what the peace of Christ has conquered.
VII. No Distinction Must Be Drawn Between the Merits of the Two.Augustine[139] and Theodoret[140] also wrote on the greatness of Rome – but for being the largest city, and its foundation on Peter and Paul. Rome's degree of 'primacy' was affirmed by one hundred and fifty bishops meeting at the Council of Chalcedon.[141] For this council Rome's primacy rested on the fact it was once the imperial capital.
And over this band, dearly-beloved, whom God has set forth for our example in patience and for our confirmation in the Faith, there must be rejoicing everywhere in the commemoration of all the saints, but of these two Fathers' excellence we must rightly make our boast in louder joy, for God's Grace has raised them to so high a place among the members of the Church, that He has set them like the twin light of the eyes in the body, whose Head is Christ. About their merits and virtues, which pass all power of speech, we must not make distinctions, because they were equal in their election, alike in their toils, undivided in their death. But as we have proved for Ourselves, and our forefathers maintained, we believe, and are sure that, amid all the toils of this life, we must always be assisted in obtaining God's Mercy by the prayers of special interceders, that we may be raised by the Apostles' merits in proportion as we are weighed down by our own sins. Through our Lord Jesus Christ, &c.[138]
Canon XXVIII of the Council of Chalcedon
This canon above comes up in numerous discussions on Papal Supremacy. For Orthodox it demonstrates a fluidity to the placing of honors – it shows Constantinople's place of honor moving up higher than older Sees such as Jerusalem, Alexandria and, Antioch.Pope Leo I protested against the inclusion of this canon and refused to sign agreement to it. The Catholic encyclopaedia says
"In reply Pope Leo protested most energetically against canon xxviii and declared it null and void as being against the prerogatives of Bishops of Alexandria and Antioch, and against the decrees of the Council of Nicaea. Like protests were contained in the letters written 22 May, 452, to Emperor Marcian, Empress Pulcheria, and Anatolius of Constantinople. Otherwise the pope ratified the Acts of the Council of Chalcedon, but only inasmuch as they referred to matters of faith."[142]The pope protested on behalf of two other Sees' privileges, not on a matter of his own power. However despite his energetic protests the canon remained adhered to by the eastern churches. It was confirmed in the east at the Council of Trullo in 692, where the four major eastern patriarchs attended; Paul of Constantinople, Peter of Alexandria, Anastasius of Jerusalem, George of Antioch. Thus despite the wishes of the pope the eastern churches ignored his protests.
Eventually it was accepted in the West. In 1215 at the Fourth Council of the Lateran the Roman church accepted Constantinople's position – albeit when Constantinople was in western hands following the Fourth Crusade. Subsequently at the Council of Florence this was confirmed to the Greek Patriarch of Constantinople.
"... and so the opposition of Rome gave way after seven centuries and a half, and the Nicene Canon which Leo declared to be “inspired by the Holy Ghost” and “valid to the end of time”[143]
Rome as an archetype church
The church in Rome is occasionally singled out.Tertullian
Come now, you who would indulge a better curiosity, if you would apply it to the business of your salvation, run over the apostolic churches, in which the very thrones of the apostles are still pre-eminent in their places, in which their own authentic writings are read, uttering the voice and representing the face of each of them severally. Achaia is very near you, (in which) you find Corinth. Since you are not far from Macedonia, you have Philippi; (and there too) you have the Thessalonians. Since you are able to cross to Asia, you get Ephesus. Since, moreover, you are close upon Italy, you have Rome, from which there comes even into our own hands the very authority (of apostles themselves). How happy is its church, on which apostles poured forth all their doctrine along with their blood! Where Peter endures a passion like his Lord's! Where Paul wins his crown in a death like John's where the Apostle John was first plunged, unhurt, into boiling oil, and thence remitted to his island-exile![144]With no special charism associated with Paul, he is quietly ignored by Catholic apologists as a founder of the See of Rome. Or his part is acknowledged but merely in passing because the theory of the pope's authority has no place for Paul's role in the foundation of the Roman church.
Rome serves as an example, but so do the other apostolic churches. Again, reflecting Ignatius' thoughts on catholic it is noted that the many churches each are 'one'.
Cyprian
"And this unity we ought firmly to hold and assert, especially those of us that are bishops who preside in the Church, that we may. Let no one deceive the brotherhood by a falsehood: let no one corrupt the truth of the faith by perfidious prevarication. The episcopate is one, each part of which is held by each one for the whole."[145]
Equality of the Apostles
Peter and Paul taught the same as each other. All the Apostles were the foundation (rock) of the church. Nothing was withheld from any of the Apostles. When they preached they did so with equal knowledge. Peter preached to the Jews as Paul preached to the Gentiles[146] Galatians 2:7.- Tertullian
"Was anything withheld from the knowledge of Peter, who is called "the rock on which the church should be built," who also obtained "the keys of the kingdom of heaven," with the power of "loosing and binding in heaven and on earth?" Was anything, again, concealed from John, the Lord's most beloved disciple, who used to lean on His breast to whom alone the Lord pointed Judas out as the traitor, whom He commended to Mary as a son in His own stead?"[147]
- John Chrysostomon
"As a king sending forth governors, gives power to cast into prison and to deliver from it, so in sending these forth, Christ investeth them with the same power.[148]Cyril of Alexandria
"One therefore is Christ both Son and Lord, not as if a man had attained only such a conjunction with God as consists in a unity of dignity alone or of authority. For it is not equality of honour which unites natures; for then Peter and John, who were of equal honour with each other, being both Apostles and holy disciples."[149]
"Rock"
Orthodox Christians believe all people can share in God. In a process called Theosis. We are all called to be rock. That is to share in the same nature. Thus from the earliest times the foundation of the church can be said to be; the faith; Jesus; the Apostles, not just Peter."First of all, sir," I said, "explain this to me: What is the meaning of the rock and the gate?" "This rock", he answered, "and this gate are the Son of God."[150]
For the strengthening of your holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, which you founded on the rock of the faith, so that the gates of Hell might not prevail against it, delivering it from every heresy and from the scandals caused by those who work iniquity, and from the enemies who arise and attack it, until the consummation of the age.[151]Peter is referred to as rock but other Christian writers use the term in describing others; Hippolytus of Rome;[152] Victorinus of Pettau;[153] Gregory of Nyssa;[154] Hilary of Poitiers;[155] Jerome;[156]Basil the Great;[157] Gregory Thaumaturgus;[158] Ambrosiaster;[159] Aphraates;[160] Athanasius;[161] Origen;[162] John Cassian[163]
The Orthodox Christian position is that all members of the church are called to be 'rock'; just as the church is built on the foundation of all the Apostles (Ephesians 2:20), all are called to be stones (1Peter 2:4-9). Protestant Matthew Henry's bible commentary notes this too when he states
"The church is built upon the foundation of the apostles. The first stones of that building were laid in and by their ministry; hence their names are said to be written in the foundationsof the new Jerusalem."[164]Peter described himself as a fellow elder 1Peter 5:1, placing himself on equal footing with the other disciples.[165]
For these early writers, Peter's leading position does not carry a special status that places him in a class different from all the other disciples of Jesus, nor do they imply that Peter's personal privileges and authority are transmitted to his successors in any particular church."[166]
Peter as "Prince of the Apostles"
Peter is often called the Prince of the Apostles. If such a special title meant that he held a special charism it was not exclusively Rome's. Other Sees had been founded by Peter. Pope Gregory the Great recognised these Sees were all equally as Sees of Peter. There is no difference between the Sees of Peter.[167]- Pope Gregory
"Your most sweet Holiness has spoken much in your letter to me about the chair of Saint Peter, Prince of the apostles, saying that he himself now sits on it in the persons of his successors ...
Wherefore though there are many apostles, yet with regard to the principality itself the See of the Prince of the apostles alone has grown strong in authority, which in three places is the See of one ...
He himself established (sic) the See in which, though he was to leave it, he sat for seven years. Since then it is the See of one, and one See, over which by Divine authority three bishops now preside, whatever good I hear of you, this I impute to myself. "[168]Theodoret also refers to other Sees being thrones of Peter.[169]
Peter as the Archetype
As all are called to be rock, and as many Sees are of Peter, Peter serves as an archetype of Apostle. When he receives the keys he represents all of the Apostles.[170][171] This is found in the writings of Augustine[172] and Cyprian.[173]Gregory the Great
The pope now holds the title of universal bishop. However such titles once raised the ire of popes.[174]Pope Gregory the Great heard that Patriarch John the Faster had accepted the title ecumenical patriarch. This simply meant patriarch to the emperor, not 'universal' patriarch.[175]
The pope wrote to the emperor to protest that any one bishop should be accorded the title universal bishop.
Gregory first accords Peter the title prince of the Apostles.
"For to all who know the Gospel it is apparent that by the Lord’s voice the care of the whole Church was committed to the holy Apostle and Prince of all the Apostles, Peter.[176]Gregory notes that honor was bestowed upon Peter and the church in Rome – given it by an ecumenical council, but that no one person used the title.[177] It was an honor for all priests.[178] Gregory emphatically says no one person should have such a title.[179]
Pelagianism
During the controversies surrounding Pelagius' heresies a council in Mileve (in Numidia) found against Pelagianism. They then wrote to the pope seeking his help. They gave him much praise"We write this from the council of Numidia, imitating our colleagues of the church and province of Carthage, who we understand have written on this matter to the apostolic see, which your blessedness adorns."[180]Catholic apologists may make the most of such praise. However in the context of history one must also note that this praise was conditional. The next pope Zosimus did not out-rightly condemn the heresy Pelagianism and was himself condemned by the rest of the church for back-pedalling.[181]
Thus the same church (in Africa) could lavish praise upon the church in Rome but could equally condemn them, depending on the teachings Rome upheld.
Zosimus eventually reconfirmed the decision of Innocent, Pelagius went to the churches in Palestine where a synod was called to hear his case.[182] Augustine says that the churches in Palestine were deceived by Pelagius. What is important though is that even after two popes had condemned him Pelagius could still seek judgment by another region's synod. Evidently the Palestinian churches did not see the condemnation of the church in Rome and the church in Africa as binding.
It would take an ecumenical council to bring the churches to agreement on this matter.
Cyprian
In the encyclical Satis cognitum Pope Leo XIII misquotes Cyprian."To be in communion with (pope) Cornelius is to be in communion with the Catholic Church"[183]The quotation is taken from Cyrpian's letter to Antonianus who was questioning whether he should be loyal to Cornelius or another claimant to the pontificate Novation. Cornelius selection as bishop of Rome was backed by sixteen bishops. Cyprian stated that Novation
"... strives by bribery to be made an adulterous and extraneous bishop by the hands of deserters; and although there is one Church, divided by Christ throughout the whole world into many members, and also one episcopate diffused through a harmonious multitude of many bishops[184]Therefore to adhere to a heretic (Novation) is to separate oneself from the Catholic Church. Furthermore Cyprian confirms here that the one church is divided into many bishoprics throughout the world. He goes on to say in the same letter
" While the bond of concord remains, and the undivided sacrament of the Catholic Church endures, every bishop disposes and directs his own acts, and will have to give an account of his purposes to the Lord[185]Cyprian is used several times in Catholic apologetics.[186]
"And although He assigns a like power to all the Apostles yet He founded a single Chair, thus establishing by His own authority the source and hallmark of the [Church's] oneness. No doubt the others were all that Peter was, but a primacy is given to Peter, and it is [thus] made clear that there is but one Church and one Chair. So too, even if they are all shepherds, we are shown but one flock which is to be fed by all the Apostles in common accord. If a man does not hold fast to this oneness of Peter, does he imagine that he still holds the faith? If he deserts the Chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, has he still confidence that he is in the Church?"[187]The Jesuit scholar Bévnot notes…
"A primacy is give to Peter primatus Petro datur ... To translate primatus by 'the primacy' is to contradict the context which speaks of the Apostles as being equal in power, equally shepherds."[188]
Cyprian and Augustine
Background - Donatism- During the persecutions of the early church some Christians, in order to avoid persecution renounced their faith. A question then rose of how to accept these people back into the church. Some argued that they should just be allowed back into the church. Others, “Donatists” argued that re-baptism was required. Cyprian of Carthage was one who argued that the lapsed needed to be baptised again. Augustine would argue against rebaptism. Augustine’s position was one that was accepted as orthodox.
- Cyprian stated the position that each local church to decide upon matters.[189]
"For we find also, in the Acts of the Apostles, that this is maintained by the apostles, and kept in the truth of the saving faith, so that when, in the house of Cornelius the centurion, the Holy Ghost had descended upon the Gentiles who were there, fervent in the warmth of their faith, and believing in the Lord with their whole heart; and when, filled with the Spirit, they blessed God in divers tongues, still none the less the blessed Apostle Peter, mindful of the divine precept and the Gospel, commanded that those same men should be baptized who had already been filled with the Holy Spirit, that nothing might seem to be neglected to the observance by the apostolic instruction in all things of the law of the divine precept and Gospel"[192]Augustine supports Cyprian
- Thus Cyprian's stance does not evidence Papal Supremacy. The pope had condemned this position but one local church continued on with its own matters in the manner it decided. Importantly Augustine, who disagrees with Cyprian's stance on dogma does not condemn Cyprian's manner.[193]
Despite the fact that the pope had condemned Cyprian’s position, a general council had not yet ruled on the matter. Augustine recognises this fact.[195]
Augustine is of the belief that Cyprian might have changed his mind if a general (ecumenical) council had been called.[196] He states that a council would have the ultimate say in removing all doubt.[197] Augustine had elsewhere argued that a council could over-rule a local church - even the church in Rome.[198]
Adherence to the Bishop of Rome was not "necessary" for unity.[199]
This is the orthodox understanding – bishops can be in error, including the bishop of Rome. Individual churches could disagree with each other, and still remain Catholic short of a general council deciding; it could be called in which all churches gathered and proclaimed a unity of faith.
The African Church was steadfast in its belief, despite any papal pronouncements. In 258 at the Council of Iconium, presided over by St. Firmilian of Neo-Caesarea, and attended by Fathers from Cappadocia, Lycea, Galatia and other parts of Asia. It rejected the teaching of Pope Stephen of Rome, and confirmed the decrees of Carthage in regards to the rebaptism and re-ordination of converts baptized or ordained by heretics.
Around 419 at the Council of Carthage, presided over by Pope Aurelius of Carthage, and attended by 217 bishops all together it condemned Pelagianism (those who deny original sin and grace) and Donatism (who reject the ordination of those who had lapsed during the persecution), and denied the jurisdiction of the Pope of Rome in the African Church. Further it enumerated canon of Holy Scriptures (Old and New Testaments), and prohibited the rebaptism or re-ordination of those baptized or ordained by Donatists. (which of course depends on whether they were rightly ordained/baptised in the first place).
Eventually, following an Ecumenical Council the orthodox position as supported by both the pope and Augustine was accepted in Africa. But, as shown they did not accept it simply because the pope had stated it was so. They recognised he could be in error, and that they had, for the time being ruled on their own affairs themselves. Augustine supported Cyprian's right to decide as he did.
St Vincent of Lérins
As Augustine argues that Cyprian would have rejoined orthodox belief following a general council, Vincent of Lérins wrote on what he considered constituted the teachings of the Catholic Church. His opening "General Rule" mentions no adhesion to the Bishop of Rome, rather what is taught by all the church. Hasler sums this up as"... a teaching can only be defined if it has been held to be revealed at all times, everywhere, and by all believers. "[200]This same rule would be used also to argue against Papal infallibility.
The Reunion Council
For Orthodox, the acceptance of a council relies on two points, it must not only state the faith as always taught, but also be accepted by the whole church. A council can rule and still be rejected by the faithful. Some Catholic historians maintain that the Second Council of Lyon of 1272 shows the churches of the east submitting to Roman authority. It was at this council that the Roman (Byzantine) Emperor Michael endeavored to re-unite the churches (split apart at the Great Schism in 1054).The delegation who attended from the east however did not represent the churches in the east, but the Emperor himself. They were his personal emissaries.[201]
Historian Steven Runciman notes;
"But on the whole it was only amongst the laymen of the Court that any supporters of a union could be found; and they were moved by political rather than religious considerations."[202]Michael had genuinely wished re-union. His primary fear was not an attack from the Turks, but the fear of a renewed effort by the Latin west against the Empire – one must remember that this is not long after Michael had recaptured Constantinople from the Latin west – which had held it since the Fourth Crusade in 1204. With the failure of this attempt at union through a political solution, Michaels fears were realised when the pope concluded an alliance with Charles of Anjou in 1281. The empire and the dynasty were saved from military intervention only by the Sicilian Vespers, (a rebellion that broke out in Palermo).[203] This council then, having been rejected by the whole church is not accepted in the east as a valid council, despite the pope accepting it as such.
Conclusion of Orthodox rebuttal
The Catholic position is that Rome's bishop stands out from the others because he has a special charism handed down from Peter. As shown above Rome's greatness was found in the two apostles Peter and Paul; that there was no difference between them. The Church Fathers state that the keys are held by others; John the Evangelist, for example, and the church as a whole. The Church Fathers also say that rock refers not just to Peter, but to the church, to Jesus, and to the Christian faith. Further there was no difference between one of Peter's Sees from another. Orthodox maintain that all bishops are equal. All are called to be rock.As a reflection of the Trinity the church is united by love, not a formal adherence to one particular bishop in one particular location. For Orthodox, each individual to truly be a person must also be engaged in this unity of love with other persons.[204] The Trinity too is joined by a union of love - with each member of the Trinity fully God. Each church is fully catholic united by love. To change the structure of the church would change how we perceive God, and also how we must interact with each other.
Citations
Epistle to the Smyrnaeans - Chapter VIII.-Let Nothing Be Done Without the Bishop.
This James, whom the early Christians surnamed the Righteous because of his outstanding virtue, was the first, as the records tell us, to be elected to the Episcopal throne of the Jerusalem church. Clement, in Outlines Book VI, puts it thus: "Peter, James, and John, after the Ascension of the Saviour, did not claim pre-eminence because the Saviour had especially honored them, but chose James the Righteous as Bishop of Jerusalem.quoted in Whelton, M (1998). Two Paths: Papal Monarchy - Collegial Tradition. Salisbury, MA: Regina Orthodox Press. pp. 38–39.
Because of the schism at Antioch its first president, Meletius, was not in communion with Rome and Alexandria. Its second president, Gregory of Nazianzus, was not in western eyes the legitimate bishop of Constantinople.
- Fitzgerald, K. K., (2006)Persons in Communion – A Theology of Authentic Relationships, (InterOrthodox Press; Berkeley, CA), p58.
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