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Giovanni Langranco's depiction of "The Council of the god." |
Check this out. The ancient and perennial paganism is parading as a new and intelligently complex view of God, which god it reduces to, and synonymous with, mere material reality, a god who is "nature and everything".
Show me the Creator of anything that does not stand outside of his own creation, who is rather encompassed, circumscribed and defined by his creation and I will then believe that the universe itself is "self-created."
https://www.facebook.com/everythingisgod
Here is what these New Age pantheists say: "Join us in helping REDEFINE THE WORD GOD for future generations. Einstein and other brilliant scientists, mathematicians, philosophers, and poets speak of a God that is EVERYTHING, altogether.(editor note - he said sarcastically - those scientists who lived and learned in the Christian culture, could not possibly have been thinking about the Christian God who is according to /Christian theology, (1) Uncreated, (2) Omnipresent, (3) Omnipotent, and (4) Omniscient - That God won't do, because he is more than physical "nature" and "everything".)
"It's time to take back and reclaim the word God. All around the world, children are taught that God is limited; that God is a man; that God is not in control of "evil"; that God is angry and superficial. They are taught an idea of God that was created when the world was flat.
(<smile> editor note- of course this paragraph is just ignorant, well . . . so was the first paragraph. This person is so ignorant of Christianity that he/she believes Christianity to be dualism and the Christian God to be handicapped and a mere man.)
(<smile> editor note- of course this paragraph is just ignorant, well . . . so was the first paragraph. This person is so ignorant of Christianity that he/she believes Christianity to be dualism and the Christian God to be handicapped and a mere man.)
"But some of us are fortunate enough to know that God is nature; God is everything. Please "Like" our page and "Share" our posts in order to celebrate, spread and support this simple belief to the point that one day the world will know the advanced definition of God."
Editor note - Even in Pagan terms this is not anyone's "advanced definition." In fact the definition of God as "nature and everything" is a regression, a devolution, a devaluing of even the knowledge of the Almighty Creator held by the ancient Pagans. In the Rig Veda, the most ancient Hindu text, we find this in the 129th hymn of the tenth book and it represents some profound speculation and truth about the Creator of Nature and Everything - who was not that Nature and Everything, but rather created it. If you follow the understanding held in this hymn you would sooner or later arrive at the full revelation of the Christian Creator God, not some deity, limited by the human definition of "nature" and "everything." But rather a Deity outside of definition, incapable of being defined, spoken of in human language merely anthropomorphically in Kataphatic and Apophatic terms but never circumscribed, positively defined by human understanding, thought, language or definition. Yet a God that has revealed Himself, to the degree we can know and experience, if we seek him.
Editor note - Even in Pagan terms this is not anyone's "advanced definition." In fact the definition of God as "nature and everything" is a regression, a devolution, a devaluing of even the knowledge of the Almighty Creator held by the ancient Pagans. In the Rig Veda, the most ancient Hindu text, we find this in the 129th hymn of the tenth book and it represents some profound speculation and truth about the Creator of Nature and Everything - who was not that Nature and Everything, but rather created it. If you follow the understanding held in this hymn you would sooner or later arrive at the full revelation of the Christian Creator God, not some deity, limited by the human definition of "nature" and "everything." But rather a Deity outside of definition, incapable of being defined, spoken of in human language merely anthropomorphically in Kataphatic and Apophatic terms but never circumscribed, positively defined by human understanding, thought, language or definition. Yet a God that has revealed Himself, to the degree we can know and experience, if we seek him.
Rig Veda 129th Hymn of the 10th Book:
Nor Aught nor Naught existed; yon bright sky
Was not, nor heaven's broad woof outstretched above.
What covered all? what sheltered? what concealed?
What covered all? what sheltered? what concealed?
Was it the water's fathomless abyss?
There was not death - yet was there naught immortal,
There was no conflue betwixt day and night;
The only One breathed breathless by itself,
Other than It there nothing since has been.
Darkness there was, and all at first was veiled
In gloom profound - an ocean without light -
The germ that still lay covered in the husk
Burst forth, one nature, from the fervent heat.
Then fist came love upon it, the new spring
Of mind - yea, poets in their hearts discerned,
Pondering, this bond between created things
And Uncreated. Comes this spark from earth
Pondering, and all-pervading, or from heaven?
Then seeds were sown, and the mighty powers arose -
The only One breathed breathless by itself,
Other than It there nothing since has been.
Darkness there was, and all at first was veiled
In gloom profound - an ocean without light -
The germ that still lay covered in the husk
Burst forth, one nature, from the fervent heat.
Then fist came love upon it, the new spring
Of mind - yea, poets in their hearts discerned,
Pondering, this bond between created things
And Uncreated. Comes this spark from earth
Pondering, and all-pervading, or from heaven?
Then seeds were sown, and the mighty powers arose -
Nature below, and power and will above -
Who knows the secret? who proclaimed it here,
Whence, whence this manifold creation sprang?
He from whom all this great creation came,
Whether his will created or was mute,
The Most High Seer that is in highest heaven
He knows it - or perchance even He knows not.
Even the extra-canonical Gospel of Thomas holds a better understanding of the nature of Being than our neo-pagan friend. In that Gospel of Thomas it has Jesus saying, "If matter came to be because of the Spirit, that is a wonder! But if Spirit came to be because of the material, that is a wonder of wonders and folly."
The "mighty powers" in this Vedic hymn are the pantheon of gods that represent a devolution of theological thought, not an advance. The Judeo/Christian Tradition does not ignore this pantheon of "gods" - the pantheon is answered and put in its place many times in Psalms.
Psa_82:1 A Psalm of Asaph. God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.
Even the ancient Hindu scriptures state in their own way, before there was being, their was God, uncreated, not part of nature nor "all things", who was before nature and all things. Just as understood, stated and celebrated in Christian theology, scripture, liturgy, tradition and creed.
"All things came to be, by HIM, and without Him not one thing has being."
Who knows the secret? who proclaimed it here,
Whence, whence this manifold creation sprang?
He from whom all this great creation came,
Whether his will created or was mute,
The Most High Seer that is in highest heaven
He knows it - or perchance even He knows not.
Even the extra-canonical Gospel of Thomas holds a better understanding of the nature of Being than our neo-pagan friend. In that Gospel of Thomas it has Jesus saying, "If matter came to be because of the Spirit, that is a wonder! But if Spirit came to be because of the material, that is a wonder of wonders and folly."
The "mighty powers" in this Vedic hymn are the pantheon of gods that represent a devolution of theological thought, not an advance. The Judeo/Christian Tradition does not ignore this pantheon of "gods" - the pantheon is answered and put in its place many times in Psalms.
Psa_82:1 A Psalm of Asaph. God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.
Psa_82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
Psa_86:8 Among the gods there is none like unto thee, O Lord; neither are there any works like unto thy works.
Psa_95:3 For the LORD is a great God, and a great King above all gods.
Psa_96:4 For the LORD is great, and greatly to be praised: he is to be feared above all gods.
Psa_96:5 For all the gods of the nations are idols: but the LORD made the heavens.
Psa_97:7 Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast themselves of idols: worship him, all ye gods.
Psa_97:9 For thou, LORD, art high above all the earth: thou art exalted far above all gods.
Psa_135:5 For I know that the LORD is great, and that our Lord is above all gods.
Psa_136:2 O give thanks unto the God of gods: for his mercy endureth for ever.
Psa_138:1 A Psalm of David. I will praise thee with my whole heart: before the gods will I sing praise unto thee.
Even the ancient Hindu scriptures state in their own way, before there was being, their was God, uncreated, not part of nature nor "all things", who was before nature and all things. Just as understood, stated and celebrated in Christian theology, scripture, liturgy, tradition and creed.
"All things came to be, by HIM, and without Him not one thing has being."
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